Roberto Germán [00:00:01]:
Welcome to Our Classroom. In this space, we talk about education, which is inclusive of, but not limited to what happens in schools. Education is taking place whenever and wherever we are willing to learn. I am your host, Roberto Germán, and Our Classroom is officially in session. Welcome back to Our Classroom. In this deeply personal and powerful episode of Our Classroom, Lorena Germán shares her own immigration journey to illuminate the very real and often invisible challenges many immigrants face in the United States today. From navigating the complexities of permanent residency to the emotional toll of being treated as the Other in the only country she's ever called home, Lorena invites listeners into her lived experience with vulnerability, clarity, and urgency. Drawing connections between past dictatorships in the Dominican Republic and current political realities in the US she offers a poignant reflection on fear, belonging, and the weight of documentation in defining one's humanity.
Roberto Germán [00:01:17]:
This episode is not just a personal story, it's a call to action. If you have ever wondered how immigration policy impacts Our Classrooms, our families, and our communities, this conversation is for you. Let's get into it.
Lorena Germán [00:01:33]:
I want to help people understand the tension that immigrants are facing and feeling right now, the way that we are processing this moment. And of course, I'm speaking of the collective. This is not every immigrant. This is not. I don't have this same feelings, obviously, that all immigrants do. And I don't mean to speak for all people, that's for sure. I am speaking for myself. I'm speaking for members of my family, for sure, some, not all.
Lorena Germán [00:02:05]:
And I know that there will be immigrants out there that share my concerns and even my point of view. So here goes to a little vulnerability and me just being a little transparent with why I am anxious. So I. For those that don't know, I was born in Dominican Republic and came here when I was very little. So while I was raised here and lived my whole life here in my house and Mikasa, it was DR Right. Like, we spoke Spanish, we ate all of our food from DR Right, like culturally speaking.
Lorena Germán [00:02:47]:
And everything that I lived at home was very much like Yosi Guaya and then leaving my house every day I was in the United States, right? So whether I'm going to school, going to the doctor's office, everything that I'm doing, you know, is. Everything that I'm doing is. Is living my American life. So very bicultural in that way, if you know what I mean. And for those that don't know, in the Dominican Republic, there was a dictatorship for 31 years. Rafael Leonidas Trujillo placed there in efforts by the US Government, as have been most dictators throughout Latin America. Not all most. And he was there for 31 years.
Lorena Germán [00:03:35]:
And the impact of his regime is actually still felt today In a number of ways. He impacted culture in a way that has been indelible. Like, we still have things that we do and say that come from that period of time. And I share that because it's important to understand the context of where I'm coming from and. And. And kind of like where the feelings are for right now, anyway. And so in ndr, the way that the regime worked was that there could be no dissent, right? You couldn't disagree with him or with his regime or what he was doing. You couldn't want a different party.
Lorena Germán [00:04:19]:
You couldn't want someone else to run for president or to be in any position of power. You couldn't really have a say. If he wanted a girl, he would have that girl. If he wanted a piece of land, your house, he could just have it. He could just take it. And all types of excuses were made up and said. There were all types of justifications made. So some of the ways that.
Lorena Germán [00:04:47]:
That. Some of the ways that the regime impacted Dominican culture. I'm just going to give you some concrete examples. So, for example, there were these people called the calieses. So he had his own. Like, I mean, he took over the police in the. In the army. So.
Lorena Germán [00:05:04]:
So they were the government, right? But then there were calieses. These were the people who lived among you. They could be your neighbor, they could be your daughter's friend. They could be the person who comes in and cleans the windows. They could be the carpenter. They could be anybody. And if they heard you speaking something that was. That they thought would be of interest to the government, they could report you and they could say, you know, hey, I think Lorena is anti government.
Lorena Germán [00:05:33]:
I think Lorena, you know, is. Is trying to be against what the government is doing. And so that from that came a saying that exists to this day, which is, la palabras habla paredes tilen hoyidos, right? So, like, the walls could talk or the walls have ears. And that is still a thing, right? Like where. I mean, I know it and I wasn't raised there. And so there are elements right from that period of time where there's like this general distrust of. Of even some of your neighbors until they prove to be, you know, allied to you in your cause in some kind of way. That's one example.
Lorena Germán [00:06:21]:
Another example is, is that you will meet people from a Certain generation and older that are Dominican that have two names. They have their, their name on their, you know, on their birth certificate, right? Like their legal name. And then there's their known name. And so that's because if somebody came knocking at the door, if a kaliyeh came knocking at the door and they could say, hey, is Lorena here? My husband could be like, oh, I'm not sure who that is. I, I don't know because everybody knew me by say, another name, Juana, right? And so for a generation, an entire generation, there were people who had these two names. And so it's these ways that that regime, right? Like, and those are little, totally unpainful, if you will, right? Like those are little tiny ways that that regime, that, that dictatorship impacted culture. Those are like non harmful. I think if I were to think about it, right? Those are non harmful, little.
Lorena Germán [00:07:28]:
That's residue, if you will. The more harmful residue from the regime was this institutionalized anti blackness in the form of anti Haitianism and other, you know, expressions of hate, of bias, of discrimination, of self hate, of colonization, all of that. For example, there was a genocide during the regime where he killed. I can't remember how many because we'll, we'll never really know, but hundreds of thousands of Haitians. I share this because as a Dominican, right, living in Tampa, Florida, 2025, in this moment, in this political moment, I am walking around with stress and anxiety. I think many of us are for a lot of different reasons, right? Whether you are one of the many people who have lost their job, whether you are one of the many people who, you know, feel directly impacted by some of these cuts or, you know, some of these different executive orders. And I hope we understand the ways that immigrants, particularly immigrants from the Western Hemisphere, Central and South America and the Caribbean are feeling exceptionally stressed and anxious and worried. A little bit of my personal story is, as I said before, I came here when I was very little and we had our permanent residency.
Lorena Germán [00:09:11]:
To be a permanent resident in the United States means that you have a green card. It means that you have your documentation, you are here with legal documents. You should not by any reason be getting deported, unless of course, you make some kind of crime, right? You commit some kind of crime. That's like really heinous. And there is, you know, and the judge decides that you can be deported because you're still not a US Citizen today. I am a US Citizen. I got my citizenship a number of years ago, but. And I'll even talk about the, the surroundings of that.
Lorena Germán [00:09:42]:
So As a permanent resident, one of the things that happens is, is that you. You have this card, right? It's a literal. Well, at the time, it was a literal green card. It was green, and it had a picture and some of your information. The thing is that when I got that green card, I was little or younger, and as I was getting older, I was in college or maybe in. Later on in high school, I think it was now, I can't remember. But at some point, I had to get a new picture because the picture had expired. The card had not.
Lorena Germán [00:10:15]:
The card never expired because of when I went and got my citizenship. It just never expired. And so the issue is, is that now I have this card that is valid, but a picture that is not. And that sounds like it's not a big deal, right? Because how much could my face change? And my face didn't change that much. However, whenever I would come into the country, if I was, you know, wherever I was going, typically Dominican Republic, when I was coming back into the United States, I would get stopped. I would get stopped at. At borders and customs, and I would get questioned and interrogated. You know, like, what's going on with this? What is the problem here? You know, what do you do? And I'm like, I'm a kid.
Lorena Germán [00:10:55]:
I'm a student, you know, and that was always a very difficult and challenging experience. And being. I'm trying to be very succinct. And there were. There was one time in particular, I remember getting pulled in, and I was traveling back with my grandparents, and my grandparents were citizens at the time, and so they were ushered kind of along their way. And I got pulled. I got pulled into an office. I'm sitting in this.
Lorena Germán [00:11:19]:
In this really, you know, like, the space wasn't confusing because it was just an office, but there were these doors and, like, I don't know what's going on behind those doors. And some of those doors that sounded like they were arguing, or at least it was just a very tense, dark quiet, like, nobody's talking to me. Nobody is explaining to me why I'm still sitting here. And that experience kind of changed a lot for me, because I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, man, I have been here for so many years. I've never committed a crime. I have my legal documentation. I am simply trying to go back home, and yet I am being interrogated. Like I have done something wrong.
Lorena Germán [00:11:57]:
Like, there is something wrong with. With what I'm trying to do, right? Like, if there's a crime and one of the reasons why that changed everything for me was because I was so young and because I realized that my status here, although legal, was in jeopardy. Like, look at how easily and quickly me being a permanent resident means nothing. And so the next time I traveled, I remember this. I remember this like it was yesterday. I had my luggage prepared, and I was like, okay, what should I bring to prove when I come back that I am a good person? It breaks my heart. And I remember packing up a report card from when I was a child. I packed up a report card from high school.
Lorena Germán [00:13:01]:
I packed up my library card. I packed a report, like a book report that I did. And I feel like there were a couple of other things, but I remember thinking, sure enough, my grades and my library card will be enough for me to come back into this country and for. And I'll present it with my green card, and they will think that I am a good person, and they will simply let me come home. The reason why I get a little emotional about that is because in this country, we equate. We equate the quality of our lives, the worth of who people are based on our documentation. We equate whether or not this kid is good, if they have good grades. We equate whether or not this person is worthy of being here, if they have a card of some sort or not.
Lorena Germán [00:13:55]:
Do we care about people, is my question. Do we really care about people more than we care about their papers? Do we care about people more than. Than we care about some kind of status, a sticker or a star that they have? And I think our society is proving to us right now that we don't. So, you know, I. I am still. I'm just kind of going through the timeline here, and I'm. I'm. You know, I come back, and for whatever reason that day, the agent that saw me didn't request any materials, didn't pull me aside, and so I, you know, didn't even have to show any of that documentation.
Lorena Germán [00:14:40]:
And that's another thing for you all to understand is that dealing with these offices, dealing with these agents really matters. In, like, the day, the time, the person, whatever their feelings are, all of that matters. If they're having a good day, you gonna get along. If they're having a crappy day, you will have to face some challenges with your paperwork, with how they treat you, right? Like you are at the mercy of their whim, of their mood, of how they decide they want to treat you today. And this is my experience, without even having to deal with Going through some kind of border, like crossing a border without documentation. I remember being in college and this same card issue being a problem when it came to my student loans, by the way. Hashtag, erase student loans, whatever. It's a scam.
Lorena Germán [00:15:40]:
And I. You know, I'm on the phone with Sallie Mae, and I'm like, listen, that card is valid. I understand what you're saying that the picture is expired, but the card is valid and it does not expire. So you tell me, like, how can we fix this? I need to get this so that I could register for my classes in two days, you know? And I remember the agent being so flippant. And again, it's about their whim and their mood and how they feel, right? And the agent says to me, well, then if you don't have the proper documentation, then just give up. Don't go to school. And I don't know if she was joking. I don't know what she was thinking.
Lorena Germán [00:16:17]:
She didn't laugh. She didn't sound like she was making fun. And I was so livid. All I could do was cry. All I could do was cry because I just needed her to approve this. Like, it didn't matter what I said, what my arguments were, what my proof was. Like. She just was in a mood and did not want to help me figure this out and says to me, you know, just give up.
Lorena Germán [00:16:39]:
Just forget about it. And I was so angry. I was so angry because I was like, yo, does she not understand that me going for my education is one of the main reasons my parents came to this country in the first place? Does she not understand the. The barrier she is posing to this myth called the American Dream? Like, her comment and her attitude was so much more symbolic than simply not helping me with my paperwork. And I was just. I was in a rage, y'all. I was so angry. I was so upset.
Lorena Germán [00:17:14]:
I was so frustrated, and all I could do was cry. And I had to just humble myself, and I had to almost beg her and say, can you please just help me? Can you please just approve this? I have submitted everything I needed to. Like, that card is valid. She said no, and she hung up on me, and I cried some more, and I took a breath, and I called back the next day. And of course, you get a new agent, because every time you call any of these companies, you get a new agent, and you got to start the process over. And that person was having a good day, and that person helped me. And I was able to register for classes and finish out my bachelor's degree, then I think I'm a senior in college. And if not, I've just graduated college, and George W.
Lorena Germán [00:18:03]:
Bush is president, and my grandfather, may he rest in peace, sits me down and says to me, listen, you need to get your citizenship. They are deporting people for missing a red light. They're deporting people for any and every kind of reason. Do your paperwork and get your citizenship. What are you waiting for? Because at that point, I was 18, and if you know anything about this paperwork and these laws, at that point, even though my parents had just become citizens, I was now an adult. And so, meaning I was now 18 and over aged. And so I was not included in their citizenship. I had to now get my own citizenship and go through my own process at 18.
Lorena Germán [00:18:50]:
And so I listened to him, and the things that he said to me really did not impact me because I was so Americanized that I was like, deport me to where? Like, this is where I live. Why would they deport me? Right? Like, it just never occurred to me that. That I really could get deported now as an adult. I'm like, oh, my goodness, right? But at the time, I was simply moved by his concern, and I said, okay, all right, I will go for it. I was very angry, as you might imagine, with the entire system, because of my experiences. And so, you know, I just really didn't. I didn't want to. In terms of, like, I didn't want to go and have to surrender right, to this system in that way.
Lorena Germán [00:19:34]:
For those of you that are joining now, I'm just sharing a little bit of my immigration story, and I'm going to get to the point of where I explain why this moment is so difficult for so many of us. And so my grandfather had sat me down, like I said, and he pushed me to get my citizenship. And so then I decided, okay, fine, let me start this paperwork. At the time, it was nearly $400, which. And I don't even know what it costs right now, which at the time, for me, like, I couldn't pay that at 18, you know, like, I couldn't do that. So here we go. Before GoFundMe's existed, you know, I'm like, hey, can you lend me this? Can you give me that? Can you this and that? My parents didn't have a spare $400. And so I just, you know, figured it out, started my paperwork, and I got my citizenship to my grandfather's joy.
Lorena Germán [00:20:34]:
Now, here's the thing, right? Here's the thing. Even after having my citizenship, I still felt like I didn't belong. I still felt like I'm not like a real American. I wasn't born here. I still speak Spanish as my first language. I. I still am the color of skin that I am. Immigration is still part of who I've been.
Lorena Germán [00:21:00]:
Immigration is still absolutely an element of conversation. I know people who arrive all the time. I know people who are undocumented, Right. Like, at the time when I got my citizenship, and so it just. It was still so much a part of me that there wasn't some type of switch of, like, all of a sudden, all those things go away. And now you. You step into this new identity that is not real, that doesn't exist. And I remember getting my piece of paper, right? So you get, like, a certificate of naturalization.
Lorena Germán [00:21:30]:
Never mind that word, naturalization. Like, now I'm naturalized anyway. And so I have a piece of paper. And it. That piece of paper felt and still feels now in 2025, very susceptible to simply being torn. Right. Can I order a new paper? Sure. But the.
Lorena Germán [00:21:56]:
My citizenship being symbolized on a piece of paper really felt like, yo, anybody could tear this up. Anybody could get rid of this. It really doesn't mean anything. I could simply be deleted in some kind of system. And it didn't feel truer. It didn't feel truer until I remember in Arizona, for those of you that are here in Arizona, there was this law where it was. The. What was it called? It was like, well, the.
Lorena Germán [00:22:27]:
The. The colloquial name for it was like, stop and show me your papers. Something along those lines. And so that law meant that the police could stop you. I mean, racial profiling based on what you look like. Because how else would they know whether you're an immigrant or not or whether you have this paper or not, Right? We don't walk around with a stamp saying citizen. So I. I saw that law, and I was like, wow, that is some serious.
Lorena Germán [00:22:55]:
Like, that's a reality check, you know? And I was past college at the time. I think. If I remember correctly, I can't remember. I think it was HB270 or HB210, something like that. And I remember thinking about, like, okay, you know, it's one of those things, like, you notice and you keep it there, but it doesn't necessarily stop you, right? It doesn't impact you. That was happening in Arizona. I was living in Massachusetts, so I was like, that's far away. That's crazy.
Lorena Germán [00:23:20]:
And I'll keep my eye on it. But that's not my reality, right? It was never me. It was always other people. Even if I belonged to that group, it was. It was things that happened to other people. And so then I find out years later that one of the people that crafted that was a man named Stephen Miller. Fast forward post graduation of college, post graduation of my master's degree. You know, I'm a mother now, and it's 2016, and the elections have happened, and we know who was elected.
Lorena Germán [00:23:58]:
And I. The day. The night of the election, just like everybody else, you know, I was like, okay, I'm gonna go to sleep. This has taken too long. And I'm. I wake up in a new reality. In a new reality that this man had been elected president. And I am in severe shock because I knew this country was racist.
Lorena Germán [00:24:25]:
I knew this country was all the things. I knew this was a country that would elect him. But there's a difference between. You know, there's a saying for Dominicans, Verlo Jegar, right? And so in English, that means, like, you know, it's one thing to. To know that there's a devil and another to see him arrive. And so it was one of those things of, like, oh, y'all really did it two or a second reason why that I was in shock is because it's so much easier to prepare yourself for winning. It's so much easier to prepare yourself for good things. I did not do anything to prepare myself for something bad, right? For, like, such a result to an election.
Lorena Germán [00:25:08]:
I didn't prepare emotionally, mentally. I did not prepare. And so I wake up and I get the news, and. And I am in shock, and. Because I had not prepared, because I didn't, you know, just all the thoughts that a lot of us had. And I remember being kind of numb for a little bit and, like, not knowing what to say, not knowing what to do. Driving to work, arriving at work in my car. And just like, I remember this, I just sit in there just like this, rubbing my temples.
Lorena Germán [00:25:34]:
And my father calls me, and he gets on the phone. He. He lived in the United States at the time. He. He doesn't anymore. Now he lives in Dominican Republic. I mean, he doesn't live there. He travels back and forth, and he calls me and he says, I don't care what anybody says to you.
Lorena Germán [00:25:53]:
You belong here. I pick up the phone and he just says that, and I just started crying again because I didn't even have to tell him how I was feeling as an. As a peer immigrant, right? As someone who has also gone through the process of naturalization and citizenship here in the United States. He understood, stood how fragile that that was, how. How fragile our citizenship meant, you know, or. Or kind of felt. And so he says to me, he says to me, it doesn't matter what anybody tells you. You belong in this country.
Lorena Germán [00:26:38]:
You belong here. You belong here. And I said, you know, I know, I know. And we just talked for a quick second and. But then I had to hang up. You know, I had to go in to. To teach. To teach, as we all did, and I just couldn't stop.
Lorena Germán [00:26:56]:
Like, I just was such an emotional wreck. It was really hard for me. Thank God I was working at a school where the majority of people felt like I did. And, you know, when I walked into class, a number of my students were crying. Other students were just downcast. Like you would honestly think that somebody died on our campus that day. I was like, well, whatever. We were going to teach out the window, you know.
Lorena Germán [00:27:20]:
And so that was the day every single class was just a wreck. I could barely get through any class. Like, nobody wanted to do anything. I share that because that day, while I felt surrounded by people who. Who had somewhat of an understanding, I still understood the reality that my government that's supposed to represent me was not that. And let me tell you that Stephen Miller, whose name I hope many of us know today, was part of his first administration. I was living in Texas at the time. I am next to the border.
Lorena Germán [00:27:56]:
I start hearing the stories, right, of people getting put in detention centers at the border and the. The. The horrid conditions that they were in and how it kind of shook our country and how these conversations took off and people would just talking about immigrants as. As nuisances in our society, as problems, as violence, as criminals. And because here's the thing, people don't always say, you know, now we have the. The terrible term illegals, but at the time, it was these immigrants. And there are still people today who just say immigrants. And they're talking about me when they say immigrants, because that's.
Lorena Germán [00:28:38]:
So now it's 2025, and not only do we have the continued deportation and the continued detention centers, but you want to couple that with what feels like a dictatorship. And so you have these triggers for people who are from Central and South America and the Caribbean who have experienced dictatorship, who have experienced regimes that are all about control. And we see all of the red flags. This all looks familiar. It looks like a duck. It sounds like a duck. It talks like a duck. Okay? It Smells like a duck.
Lorena Germán [00:29:10]:
But everybody in the United States is acting like it ain't a duck. And so it is crazy making. And so we're walking around like, should we be concerned? Because I think we should be concerned. We're seeing this wild, you know, like, cognitive dissonance where like half or I don't know how many, I haven't tabulated this, but you see so many people who are functioning right in these feelings of anxiety, which I think are completely justified, and other people who are just like, you know, things are okay, you know, or, yeah, this is what I wanted, you know, this is what I voted for. Because these, you know, illegals are whatever, whatever, whatever. But what we're seeing is, is a government that is saying, you're gonna say what I want you to say, and you're not gonna say what I don't want you to say. You're gonna do what I want you to do. And I'm gonna take stuff from you and you're just gonna like it.
Lorena Germán [00:30:02]:
And if you don't, you're gonna get deported, you're out. Birthright citizenship is now on the table, up for discussion. So if you were born here and your parents are not from here, but they are documented, you, you're out. And even if they're not, right, like, if they are or aren't documented, it doesn't matter, you can go. If birthright citizenship or the blocking of that passes, you can go, you're at risk. Anybody who's been here for any amount of years on a permanent residency, and you've spoken up and you've said something, be warned. I'm warned. I know the things I've said and I will continue to say them.
Lorena Germán [00:30:51]:
I will continue to say the truth. That is who I am. My faith compels me to speak the truth. I will not be silenced by a list of words. Do I walk around at times outside of my house concerned? I do. That's the truth. When I go to the store, when I go anywhere, I'm looking over my shoulder and I'm concerned. If I see any police or agents, I'm concerned.
Lorena Germán [00:31:20]:
So your students are walking in with these things. They're walking in with the tension that is in the air. Educators. But this is even bigger than schools as we know. This is just what is happening in this country. And I just find it mind boggling that more and more people are not having conversations about this, are not clear about what's really happening. Sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich does not make it go away. It allows for people to get hurt without your intervention.
Lorena Germán [00:31:48]:
It allows for you not to be able to do anything, say anything, or stand up for anybody. If you ever wondered what you would have done during the period of enslavement, and you think of yourself, high and mighty, and you'd say, oh, no, no, I would have been a helper. I would have been, this is your time to be a helper. Put it at risk. Put. Put it on the line. Stand up for people. Speak up.
Lorena Germán [00:32:07]:
You see people harassing somebody else because English only say something. You see I showing up, record them and say something. We need everybody to step up and say something. Don't just post about it, don't just type something, don't just text somebody, don't just wear a pin. Do something. Get out in the streets. Why is this country not shut down? Why have the people not come outside and shut this place down? What are we waiting for? What is the line? Where's the line? Where's the line that we draw? You know, I'll wrap up with this. I.
Lorena Germán [00:32:45]:
One of the books that I've taught in the past is the book called Night by Elie Wiesel. It is all about the Holocaust. And if you've never read it, I suggest it, especially now. And one of the characters that. That always. That stuck with me. That stuck with me. A lot of characters I don't remember, but Moishe the Beetle.
Lorena Germán [00:33:06]:
Anybody remember Moish the beetle? So Moish the Beetle is a character at the very beginning of the book who had been taken. He's a community man, beloved by all, right, in their. In their Jewish community. And he is taken off to a concentration camp and escapes and comes back to warn everybody. And he says, hey, there's concentration camps. They're taking us all over there. They've gone through these communities, these towns, these cities. And some people believe him and get away, some people don't.
Lorena Germán [00:33:32]:
Elie Wiesel, the author of that book Night, is one of the people whose families don't. They get taken to a ghetto, eventually to a concentration camp, go all the way to Auschwitz. If you've never heard of Auschwitz, it was a site of hell on earth. He alone survives and writes and, you know, lives to tell the story, and that's what the book is about. But that character who has come to warn them is ignored by many. And because they simply cannot fathom, they can't imagine those things being real and actually happening. And I think we're seeing some of that today. We're seeing People who are asleep.
Lorena Germán [00:34:10]:
We are seeing people who are like, oh, that's so crazy. Did that really happen? Is that really going. It can't be. Or just like, gosh, that was terrible what happened over the year, right? Or even maybe not articulating it that way and just wondering, like, well, I guess if they're illegal, then they should, right? Like, justifying it somehow in their mind. What I need people to understand is what is it going to take for you to wake up? Who are you going to listen to? Who is going to be the warning sign for you to speak up and to do something and to say something? We are in a time period where silence, Silence is not just complicity. Silence is an action here. Silence is to say, I don't care. Silence is to say, I agree with the hate.
Lorena Germán [00:34:56]:
Silence is to say, I agree with the dictatorship. That's what silence is here and now. And I know a lot of the people who disagree with me are not going to like this. But Jesus, you know, one of the things that Jesus said numerous times throughout the book of Mark and throughout the book of Luke, he says, stay awake. Or it is to say, stay, stay woke. So immigrants, even me, a US Citizen, we're walking around with this bag on our shoulder of tension, of stress, watching people in this nation ignore our pain and our struggle. We are not the only group. Black people have experienced this forever in this country.
Lorena Germán [00:35:42]:
African Americans, I mean, they've experienced it forever in this country. Indigenous people have felt it forever in this country. And we've never risen up to their cause. We have never stood forward, never stepped forward as a nation. We have a chance yet again. God is giving us a chance yet again to step up and be the country that supposedly we claim to be.
Roberto Germán [00:36:06]:
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